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Fujikawa Mokou
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I'll Face Myself
« Thread started on: Jul 29th, 2008, 1:58pm » |
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Virthra here. Not posting as Asagi because I'm too lazy to switch account.
I have some questions that can double as suggestions too.
*SPOILER to P3 FES The Answer and a little bit of P4 as reference, I think it's still fairly safe for the mods to read though*
In The Answer, Metis said that Shadow and Persona are one are the same. Some people can control their psyche, others can't. Those who can control them become Persona-user, their psyches become Personae. Power of mind not controlled - like a stray - becomes a Shadow.
That means, Personae can go out of control. In-game examples include Chidori (artificial Persona) and Shinjiro (not artificial, means that it won't happen to artificial only). Will this apply to this RP? To what caliber? How can this happen?
Also, can something like P4 happens? Personification of one's hatred, grief, fear and/or anything else negative becomes another self - a dark Persona. It's not similar to a mindless Shadow, it's another form of your Persona. It might have a different physic to the actual Persona (disfigured, usually) and it is often vile.
I don't know much about how it happens and what is actually happening when it does in P4 (don't wanna spoil myself), but that doesn't stop us from creating our own scenarios. If this is allowed, my thought is whoever had this case of a dark Persona is having a big dilemma on his/her life. This dark Persona takes form on the Dark Hour, and it'll mention to anyone listening what kind of sorrow/anger/whatever the individual is having - in the form of blabbers/poets/screams/anything else that suits the actual situation of the person. It'll try to engulf the said person, and it's up to the victim whether s/he can overcome his/her own sadness, or be swallowed by it.
Following the bad option (swallowed), that person will be one with the dark side of his/her Persona and they'll form a malicious being. It's usually hostile and will attack any Persona-user nearby. If defeated the person will revert back to normal. If s/he was a Persona-user then s/he will resume his/her life as a Persona-user (maybe with more enlightenment in life). If not, s/he can become a Persona-user, as in P4. I think it's good if not everyone become a Persona-user after going through this, it provides more role for those wanting to be non-Persona user. After all, you can not use a Persona but still experience Dark Hour. Take a good look at Ikutsuki.
Of course, cases may vary. If everyone is to follow the exact same path and ending, it'll make it eventually boring.
What do the mods think?
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Watanabe Keiichi
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Re: I'll Face Myself
« Reply #1 on: Jul 29th, 2008, 4:05pm » |
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This question is not one for the mods but for personal preference. This site is based on the game therefore, the rules of the game/game world apply to the rules of the RP, by natural assumption.
You can have artificial Persona, if you so choose, and you can not have control. A character was already made with the uncontrollable Persona. Kobayashi Momo, though her explanation makes it very slight that it'll happen, she still can't control it and that is the nature of this question.
There is no one who can change their Persona at will. That rule is in effect and will never be out of effect. I know this wasn't brought up but I'm throwing it out there so it is known.
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Amano Sachiko
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Re: I'll Face Myself
« Reply #2 on: Jul 29th, 2008, 4:12pm » |
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Okay a little addon here then from my point of view as well.
Most of those infos were also mentioned in other games of the line as well as the from my point of view somewhat boring Persona Anime. I also am quite far in Persona 4 and the shadows are in fact really interesting in that game...
So I usually would answer it with details of that game, but those would be spoilers, hence my answer is quite incomplete.
Persona are the manifestation of oneself.. also in Persona 3. If you are swallowed up by your dark side than you are also not exactly one of the nicest people. To some extent as such is it allowed.
Going into ways that turn the person further away from a human being (seen in the example of Shion) is not allowed without special allowance and even then with extreme limitations.
There are no dark persona in Persona 4, but only shadows. Just the forms and strength varies... more would be spoilers, even how the persona than are 'born'. But if you want to use all those details like in P4 than you would play a Shadow, like <censored> which is not allowed on this forum at least not for now.
Personally think it might be interesting to dwell a little into the shadow idea... but that is really a major spoiler even for Persona 4, furthermore is it also problematic because shadows in Persona 3 and 4 of course share the same origin like in other persona games, but nontheless have other traits, which are all thanks to the TV World.
A world that does not exist 2 years before P4 ..or in the timeline of Persona 3. Also to make it clear once more. Androids are not allowed yet, nor are animals or shadows.
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Fujikawa Mokou
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Re: I'll Face Myself
« Reply #3 on: Jul 29th, 2008, 4:24pm » |
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Ah yeah, no dark Persona in Persona 4. Just a really evil-looking doppelganger of the protagonists. I said that to add spice to my wordings, but I guess it turned out to be a stray from the original meaning. Though, maybe we can make it that it doesn't have to be a doppelganger, but truly a dark version of your Persona, whichever is cooler and suits more to the situation.
Swallowed up by the dark side, going with my explanation on the first post, doesn't necessarily mean you have a to be an evil sunnuva... yeah. It could just mean you're too consumed by your sorrow, by things you fear and you're not strong enough to resist them. We're human after all, there will be something we would surrender ourselves to.
So then, going like P4 did with the "I'll Face Myself" battle is still forbidden? Alrighty. It's possible though since as you said, P3 and P4 share the same world. I hope we can do this some time in the future.
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Arisawa Asami
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Re: I'll Face Myself
« Reply #4 on: Jul 29th, 2008, 5:12pm » |
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No. I said that turning the character into something non-human is forbidden. Facing the inner darkness is something that every character has to do to evolve and some even are already quite close to P4 in that regard.
Personally like P4 more than 3 and so had more ideas from that game. So my chars are mostly a mix of both games even...
What I want to say is that you can't have a person running around that has a blueish aura, gold-yellow eyes (well... theoretically in P3 there are people with such eyes, but you know that I mean that the char is still a human. In P4 there are no special eye colours. Red and yellow are not human.) nor this 'interesting' voice that is quite similar to a Hollow Ichigo to use Bleach comment as it seems quite close to the idea of fighting the inner darkness.
A creep and psycho yes, but still a human. Well should be clear enough. Have fun~
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